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20071026 07:04:28 | alexb_@irc | Hi, my name is Alex Band from the RIPE NCC. I will be monitoring this channel during this session. If you have a question or comment, I can read it out. Please make your questions as clear as possible. I will read out any questions when the speaker asks for questions at the end of his/her presentation.
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20071026 07:40:00 | alexb_@irc | Yasuhiro Shirasaki has started his talk
20071026 07:40:12 | alexb_@irc | sorry for the late announcement, was typing in the wrong window
20071026 07:46:10 | alexb_@irc | ar there any questions for Yasuhiro?
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20071026 07:53:05 | alexb_@irc | raymond jetten has started his presentation
20071026 07:54:28 | mc@irc | i know iam way off the time, but does anybody know how the chicken egg problem is prevented when new person objects need to be protected by MNT-BY already?
20071026 07:55:38 | alexb_@irc | would you like me to ask Jos about it?
20071026 07:56:56 | mc@irc | if you can, directly. i guess its solved somehow, since many people would stumble upon it, but i missed that point somehow :)
20071026 07:58:00 | alexb_@irc | any questions for raymond?
20071026 07:58:19 | alexb_@irc | mc, what is your name?
20071026 07:58:41 | mc@irc | rico gloeckner
20071026 07:58:51 | alexb_@irc | raymond has finished his presentation
20071026 07:59:17 | alexb_@irc | Peter Koch has started his presentation
20071026 08:00:39 | alexb_@irc | rico, I sent a message to Jos. Now he just needs to look at his screen. :)
20071026 08:01:06 | mc@irc | thanks :)
20071026 08:01:28 | arno@irc | iirc, it is solved by having the maintainer and person object created at the same time
20071026 08:01:43 | arno@irc | something the tools will allow (webupdates)
20071026 08:02:18 | alexb_@irc | jos says: there'll be a 'bootstrap' page for first time entrants in the database.
20071026 08:02:18 | alexb_@irc | Once you have your first person/maintainer pair, all old interfaces work again
20071026 08:02:18 | alexb_@irc | as expected.
20071026 08:02:53 | mc@irc | ah, ic, thanks.
20071026 08:03:18 | mc@irc | that might let mnt-by usage explode. wether thats good or bad, hm.
20071026 08:05:12 | arno@irc | you mean, many more maintainers?
20071026 08:05:25 | arno@irc | or just more protected person objects?
20071026 08:05:34 | arno@irc | (which I think is the point) :D
20071026 08:06:02 | mc@irc | the former
20071026 08:06:42 | mc@irc | i remember like two years ago when you could create maintainers only with some reasoning. :)
20071026 08:08:28 | alexb_@irc | any questions for Peter?
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20071026 08:10:41 | alexb_@irc | jos hs arrived :)
20071026 08:10:47 | jib@irc | greetings
20071026 08:10:58 | jib@irc | i understand there was a question about required mnt-by?
20071026 08:12:16 | mc@irc | the actual question is answerred now, it was just about the chicken egg problem
20071026 08:12:36 | mc@irc | alexb_: thanks 8-)
20071026 08:12:41 | jib@irc | mc: ah yes, we're aware of it and it's addressed, as i'm sure alex relayed
20071026 08:13:36 | mc@irc | Yes. a following loose thought was, that this may explode the count of mnt-by objects, which may or may not be "good". but again, thats just a lose thought.
20071026 08:14:03 | jib@irc | mc: explode may be overrated, but it won't explode any more than person objects currently already do
20071026 08:14:14 | jib@irc | it will be equal or less, obviously :)
20071026 08:14:33 | mc@irc | probably. 8)
20071026 08:14:49 | mc@irc | btw, are there any stats on the count of the single object types?
20071026 08:15:28 | alexb_@irc | Peter has finished his presentation
20071026 08:15:48 | jib@irc | they were reported to the DP-TF earlier, but I don't know them by heart. dbconstat will give you a fair overview though
20071026 08:16:13 | mc@irc | okay, will look later, thanks! :)
20071026 08:16:16 | jib@irc | mc: http://www.ripe.net/projects
20071026 08:16:28 | jib@irc | http://www.ripe.net/projects/dbconstat/stats.html even
20071026 08:18:16 | mc@irc | is stats.html linked from the dbconstats/index.html?
20071026 08:18:47 | mc@irc | (i dont see it, atleast)
20071026 08:22:42 | jib@irc | mc: http://www.ripe.net/projects/dbconstat/, last link on the first paragraph
20071026 08:23:22 | mc@irc | D'oh! i took that as TOC for the page itself
20071026 08:24:30 | mc@irc | thanks for opening eyes :)
20071026 08:24:52 | jib@irc | no problem -- it's early for all of us ;)
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