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My name is Laura from the RIPE NCC. I will be monitoring this channel during the Address Policy Working Group session. If you have a question or comment, I can read it out. Please confirm your name and organisation and please make your questions as clear as possible. I will read out any questions when the speaker asks for questions at the end of his/her presentation. 20071024 09:04:34 | laurac@jabber | The session has begun. Gert is making the introductions. 20071024 09:09:07 | nick@irc | nick has joined the channel. 20071024 09:13:04 | remco-16243@irc | remco-16243 has joined the channel. 20071024 09:13:30 | pheldal@jabber | the windows-media stream seems to be stuck 20071024 09:14:35 | [rvs]@irc | [rvs] has joined the channel. 20071024 09:14:57 | laurac@jabber | Axel Pawlik (RIPE NCC) has begun his presentation. 20071024 09:15:35 | laurac@jabber | pheldal: we will look into the issue with the stream 20071024 09:15:43 | pheldal@jabber | seems ok now 20071024 09:15:47 | laurac@jabber | ok 20071024 09:16:56 | [rvs]@irc | we restarted the wmv stream 20071024 09:19:07 | nick@irc | nick quit IRC altogether 20071024 09:19:08 | laurac@jabber | Axel has asked for questions. 20071024 09:20:17 | laurac@jabber | Nick Hilliard (INEX) has started his presentation. 20071024 09:25:14 | arno@irc | arno has joined the channel. 20071024 09:26:30 | damien@irc | damien has joined the channel. 20071024 09:28:23 | pheldal@jabber | the wmv stream seems stuck in some form of loop again 20071024 09:31:06 | [rvs]@irc | we're on it 20071024 09:41:37 | laurac@jabber | Are there any questions or comments for Nick? 20071024 09:48:15 | Djinh@irc | Djinh has joined the channel. 20071024 09:56:32 | damien_@irc | damien_ has joined the channel. 20071024 09:58:10 | damien@irc | damien quit IRC altogether 20071024 09:58:24 | damien_@irc | nickname changed from damien_ to damien 20071024 10:14:27 | peetee@irc | peetee has joined the channel. 20071024 10:19:08 | laurac@jabber | Leo Vegoda has started his presentation. 20071024 10:19:31 | nick@irc | nick has joined the channel. 20071024 10:33:35 | damien@irc | damien quit IRC altogether 20071024 10:33:49 | laurac@jabber | Are there any questions or comments on Leo's proposal? 20071024 10:40:23 | arno@irc | arno quit IRC altogether 20071024 10:43:13 | laurac@jabber | The session has now ended. The next Address Policy Working Group session will be tomorrow morning at 09:00. 20071024 10:46:03 | peetee@irc | peetee quit IRC altogether 20071024 10:46:39 | nick@irc | nick quit IRC altogether 20071024 10:50:13 | [rvs]@irc | [rvs] has left the channel. 20071024 11:19:16 | jeroen@irc | jeroen has joined the channel. 20071024 11:21:00 | jeroen@irc | jeroen quit IRC altogether 20071024 11:51:59 | nick@irc | nick has joined the channel. 20071024 12:08:08 | arno@irc | arno has joined the channel. 20071024 12:31:21 | arno@irc | arno has left the channel. 20071024 13:19:05 | nick@irc | nick quit IRC altogether 20071024 13:22:49 | nick@irc | nick has joined the channel. 20071024 13:24:38 | nick@irc | nick quit IRC altogether 20071024 13:30:14 | nick@irc | nick has joined the channel. 20071024 15:01:08 | nick@irc | nick quit IRC altogether 20071024 15:02:45 | nick@irc | nick has joined the channel. 20071024 17:22:13 | nick@irc | nick quit IRC altogether 20071024 21:46:21 | nick@irc | nick has joined the channel. 20071024 21:53:22 | nick@irc | nick quit IRC altogether 20071024 21:53:43 | nick@irc | nick has joined the channel. 20071024 22:08:44 | nick@irc | nick quit IRC altogether 20071025 04:10:39 | davidc@irc | davidc has joined the channel. 20071025 06:43:59 | brian@irc | brian has joined the channel. 20071025 06:58:50 | mark@irc | mark has joined the channel. 20071025 07:04:21 | mjs@irc | mjs has joined the channel. 20071025 07:04:38 | laurac@jabber | Good morning all. My name is Laura Cobley from RIPE NCC. I'll be monitoring this channel during the Address Policy Working Group session. If you have a question or comment, I can read it out. Let me know your name and organisation and please make your question as clear as possible. I will read out any questions when the speaker asks for questions at the end of their presentation. 20071025 07:04:46 | laurac@jabber | The session has just started. 20071025 07:05:28 | [rvs]@irc | [rvs] has joined the channel. 20071025 07:09:32 | laurac@jabber | Are there any comments or questions regarding the open policy proposals (2005-08 and 2007-05)? 20071025 07:10:04 | damien@irc | damien has joined the channel. 20071025 07:17:44 | rhe@irc | rhe has joined the channel. 20071025 07:21:32 | alexb_@irc | alexb_ has joined the channel. 20071025 07:28:54 | laurac@jabber | Are there any comments or questions for Roque? 20071025 07:31:53 | laurac@jabber | or Toshiyuki? 20071025 07:32:01 | pheldal@jabber | No matter what we do there will be "a last /8" and someone will get it. It's better to try to make sure everyone runs out at the same time. It would imho be better if IANA simply start handing out single /8s at a time once they don't have enough blocks to cover the needs of all RIRs for an allocation period (6 months ) 20071025 07:32:21 | laurac@jabber | Could you confirm your name and organisation? 20071025 07:33:50 | pheldal@jabber | it's not that important. I've made the point on the mailinglist already, and there probably be others raising the point 20071025 07:34:10 | laurac@jabber | Would you like me to make your comment? 20071025 07:34:25 | pheldal@jabber | not necessary, thanks 20071025 07:34:30 | wtremmel@irc | wtremmel has joined the channel. 20071025 07:34:33 | laurac@jabber | ok 20071025 07:35:11 | davew-1213@irc | davew-1213 has joined the channel. 20071025 07:36:16 | mc@irc | mc has joined the channel. 20071025 07:42:53 | [rvs]@irc | [rvs] quit IRC altogether 20071025 07:51:39 | pheldal@jabber | laurac: maybe you should raise my point above anyway (Per Heldal, representing myself;) 20071025 07:51:55 | laurac@jabber | ok - will do 20071025 08:07:05 | pheldal@jabber | Before we implement policies that enable a market we need to change NRO guidelines. The current guidelines include "IP addresses are not owned as property" and "when a consumer no longer requires the use of the IPaddress space, it is returned to the LIR or ISP" 20071025 08:07:37 | laurac@jabber | pheldal: I'll make your comment. 20071025 08:11:44 | pheldal@jabber | Btw; the NRO guidelines don't directly block transfers between LIRs as this policy suggests, but the property-statement is quite specific wrt a potential market. 20071025 08:12:29 | laurac@jabber | pheldal: would you like me to add that to your comment? 20071025 08:13:18 | pheldal@jabber | just emphasise the propery bit 20071025 08:13:22 | laurac@jabber | ok 20071025 08:13:56 | nick@irc | nick has joined the channel. 20071025 08:20:36 | laurac@jabber | The discussion is drawing to a close. Are there any final comments or questions? 20071025 08:25:13 | laurac@jabber | The discussion has ended. Sander is now presenting on IPv4 Depletion and IPv6 Deployment. 20071025 08:28:46 | laurac@jabber | Are there any comments on Sander's proposal? 20071025 08:31:15 | brian@irc | brian quit IRC altogether 20071025 08:32:22 | arno@irc | arno has joined the channel. 20071025 08:37:00 | damien@irc | damien quit IRC altogether 20071025 08:48:50 | laurac@jabber | The session is drawing to a close. Are there any final comments or questions? 20071025 08:49:24 | laurac@jabber | The session has now ended. 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