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I will be monitoring this jabber/IRC channel. If you have a question, I will read it out for you. Please state your name and organisation. 20061004 12:04:31 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | Next presentation is by Philip Smith, "Route Aggregation Recommendation". 20061004 12:06:09 | davew-1213@irc | davew-1213 has joined the channel. 20061004 12:06:22 | todd@irc | todd has joined the channel. 20061004 12:11:00 | mt6561@irc | mt6561 has joined the channel. 20061004 12:14:29 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | (the presentation is getting to the end. any questions? Vesna, jabber monitor) 20061004 12:15:07 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | Any questions for Philip Smith? The presentation is finished. 20061004 12:16:16 | ivan_bev@irc | ivan_bev has joined the channel. 20061004 12:18:05 | espen@irc | espen has joined the channel. 20061004 12:21:57 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | Presentation by Vince Fuller: Open issues with ipv6 routing and multihoming (14:20) 20061004 12:22:20 | kistel@irc | kistel has joined the channel. 20061004 12:23:55 | damien@irc | damien has joined the channel. 20061004 12:34:03 | cybes@irc | cybes has joined the channel. 20061004 12:35:41 | cybes@irc | 'lo 20061004 12:36:54 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | Hi. Current presentation is by Vince Fuller: Open issues with ipv6 routing and multihoming. It started at 14:20, and it is scheduled to last for 50 minutes. 20061004 12:38:31 | cybes@irc | when did becha turn into an auto-response robot? :-) 20061004 12:42:01 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | (cybes: at the start of this WG ;-) I am a jabber monitor, so I have to rely questions to the speaker... and help the remote participants to follow the webcast... oh, yeah, and you can call me Marvin for now ;-) 20061004 12:45:05 | todd@irc | the IP network is mostly unusable right now due to congestion/packet loss between 193.0.6.5 and 195.69.144.110. are RIPE staff aware of this? 20061004 12:49:16 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | (hi todd - yes, NCC technical staff is looking at it now) 20061004 12:49:55 | todd@irc | thanks! 20061004 12:51:06 | porjamo@irc | porjamo has joined the channel. 20061004 12:51:55 | mdavripe@irc | mdavripe has joined the channel. 20061004 12:54:31 | espen@irc | espen quit IRC altogether 20061004 13:02:30 | vato-5413-ripe@irc | vato-5413-ripe has joined the channel. 20061004 13:09:52 | iljitsch@jabber | what's a WAG? 20061004 13:10:35 | rhe-786@irc | Iljitsch: Wild-a** guess (i think) 20061004 13:10:36 | arno@jabber | I think "Wild Ass Guess" 20061004 13:10:52 | arno@jabber | sorry, my asterixes are missing 20061004 13:12:09 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | The presentation is almost over. If you have any questions, please start typing them in now (and introduce yourself). 20061004 13:14:33 | mdavripe@irc | mdavripe quit IRC altogether 20061004 13:20:18 | vato-5413-ripe@irc | i've always liked 8+8 20061004 13:22:22 | cybes@irc | yeah I like 16 too 20061004 13:28:38 | pheldal@jabber | I'm not sure "most businesses" will want to deal with the complexity of multihoming with multiple providers to get reliable connectivity. Multiple/diverse connections to one reliable providers is almost as good, and offloads the complexity to the provider. 20061004 13:29:58 | pheldal@jabber | "everybody wants everything" is only true as long as "everybody" all are network geeks ;) 20061004 13:30:06 | todd@irc | 8+8 made far too much sense to be adopted 20061004 13:30:25 | cybes@irc | that is true, but the general feeling I get from corporates now is that they want to bring the multihoming in house now - it keeps them independent from any one single supplier and it also allows them to keep transit costs low by chopping and changing 20061004 13:31:03 | cybes@irc | where there is a market, IMHO, is selling the corporates a managed service - so as a consultant we set up the multihoming for them and manage it all for them, regardless of where they buy the upstreams from 20061004 13:31:15 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | Does anyone want me to bring their questions to the mikes? (the question line has been closed, thou...) 20061004 13:31:24 | cybes@irc | but it is a general trend from what I see where enterprises are going to do the LIR, etc stuff themselves 20061004 13:31:36 | cfriacas@jabber | microphone needs a tweak... 20061004 13:31:54 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | (I will point the speaker to the jabber logs, so he can get back to you later, if needed) 20061004 13:33:57 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | Speaker: Massimo Rimondini: RPSL analysis tool. 20061004 13:39:18 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | The talk is over. 20061004 13:39:39 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | Joao is asking if this is useful to you. 20061004 13:39:56 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | Please write to rimondin@dia.uniroma3.ir 20061004 13:40:13 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | The WG is over. 20061004 13:40:19 | becha-ripe-mtg@jabber | thank you for your particpation. 20061004 13:41:22 | porjamo@irc | porjamo quit IRC altogether 20061004 13:45:33 | damien@irc | damien quit IRC altogether 20061004 13:46:29 | damien@irc | damien has joined the channel. 20061004 13:56:38 | damien@irc | damien quit IRC altogether 20061004 14:00:00 | mt6561@irc | mt6561 quit IRC altogether 20061004 14:02:18 | mdavripe@irc | mdavripe has joined the channel. 20061004 14:04:31 | davew-1213@irc | davew-1213 has left the channel. 20061004 14:07:00 | kistel@irc | kistel has left the channel. 20061004 14:19:41 | mjs@irc | mjs has left the channel. 20061004 14:24:31 | cybes@irc | cybes has left the channel. 20061004 14:31:59 | ivan_bev@irc | ivan_bev has left the channel. 20061004 14:47:50 | mike_5459@irc | mike_5459 has joined the channel. 20061004 14:47:57 | mike_5459@irc | mike_5459 has left the channel. 20061004 16:10:22 | mdavripe@irc | mdavripe quit IRC altogether 20061004 16:15:18 | vato-5413-ripe@irc | vato-5413-ripe has left the channel. 20061004 16:20:35 | rhe-786@irc | rhe-786 quit IRC altogether 20061004 16:31:45 | master@irc | master has left the channel. 20061005 06:55:38 | porjamo@irc | porjamo has joined the channel. 20061005 07:32:10 | ben@irc | ben quit IRC altogether 20061005 07:45:44 | ben@irc | ben has joined the channel. 20061005 08:26:16 | porjamo@irc | porjamo quit IRC altogether 20061005 14:33:11 | erik@irc | erik quit IRC altogether 20061005 15:03:43 | erik@irc | erik has joined the channel. 20061005 17:09:44 | marker@irc | marker has left the channel.