2005-05-06 [08:54:05] --- dr has become available 2005-05-06 [08:57:11] --- rhe has become available 2005-05-06 [09:00:52] gert here? 2005-05-06 [09:03:44] --- iljitsch has become available 2005-05-06 [09:03:44] --- iljitsch has left: Lost connection 2005-05-06 [09:03:48] * [rvs] has joined the channel. 2005-05-06 [09:07:20] gert: man.poznan.pl has withdrawn their 2001:808::/35 more-specific (to the /32) yesterday... so your presentation had effect. now really noone in RIPE region announces /35 more-specifics anymore ;) 2005-05-06 [09:07:47] --- iljitsch has become available 2005-05-06 [09:07:59] (just comment to gert, doesn't need relaying to room via microphone really) 2005-05-06 [09:08:27] what's today's size of the v6 table? 2005-05-06 [09:09:02] around 590 prefixes 2005-05-06 [09:09:14] telnet grh.sixxs.net 2005-05-06 [09:09:15] sh bg su 2005-05-06 [09:09:34] caveat: a lot of them announce their IBGP unfiltered to GRH :-( 2005-05-06 [09:10:32] Sprint uses 6175 for v6 2005-05-06 [09:10:53] DFN uses 1275 fuer v6 2005-05-06 [09:11:03] MCI EU uses 12702 for v6 2005-05-06 [09:13:04] YOU DON'T NEED TO DEAGGREGATE FOR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING. 2005-05-06 [09:17:15] why isn't it easy? 2005-05-06 [09:20:06] please don't shout in the mike... 2005-05-06 [09:22:12] --- willem has become available 2005-05-06 [09:23:39] yes, as long as your isp doesn't ingress filter... 2005-05-06 [09:24:40] my experience: the individual hosts are much easier now because of autoconfiguration, filter and dns stuff is the same. 2005-05-06 [09:25:19] so renumbering a fairly small network and a much larger network aren't very different now. 2005-05-06 [09:27:44] * uk has joined the channel. 2005-05-06 [09:30:26] Is the list IPv6-only, btw? That would be cool. :-) 2005-05-06 [09:31:11] there is no problem of mirroring the archive 2005-05-06 [09:39:43] you're a site if you have internal routing 2005-05-06 [09:40:18] * JC has joined the channel. 2005-05-06 [09:43:04] example: I have a personal server in a colo room 2005-05-06 [09:43:07] it has a /48. 2005-05-06 [09:44:00] you can't do /128 for dial up because pppv6 doesn't support address assignment. 2005-05-06 [09:54:21] * JC quit IRC altogether 2005-05-06 [09:57:02] louder please!!! 2005-05-06 [09:59:32] Well, nobody is reading anyway but a comment: it would be a mistake to assume a subnet per individual user just because we can't be 100% sure we'll never need this ever in the future. If things change this drastically we can always revisit what we decide now. 2005-05-06 [10:01:37] less bits because 16 seems outrageous isn't a good argument. IPv6 is outrageous, get used to it. 2005-05-06 [10:05:44] I want to change /64 to a different number. 2005-05-06 [10:20:57] who is talking right now? 2005-05-06 [10:22:01] ([rvs]) Iljitsch, there is quite a queue before the mic 2005-05-06 [10:22:02] has this guy ever done any ipv6 deployment??? 2005-05-06 [10:22:16] rvs: so? 2005-05-06 [10:22:33] ([rvs]) just fyi 2005-05-06 [10:23:56] mike please! 2005-05-06 [10:28:57] flexible is bad, people can't predict the future 2005-05-06 [10:29:14] two sizes fit all: too small and too large. 2005-05-06 [10:36:38] --- dr has left 2005-05-06 [10:37:26] --- willem has left 2005-05-06 [10:40:07] --- iljitsch has left 2005-05-06 [10:50:12] --- rhe has left: Replaced by new connection 2005-05-06 [10:50:12] --- rhe has become available 2005-05-06 [10:50:12] --- rhe has left 2005-05-06 [11:04:52] * [rvs] has left the channel. 2005-05-06 [12:52:16] * uk quit IRC altogether